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And it's for real.

Date: 2005-10-26 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leafshimmer.livejournal.com
Yuck-OLA!

Despite the camp element of the graphics, my heart lurches at the thought of the lives these people destroy with their insidious, seductive words.

Date: 2005-10-26 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaneramos.livejournal.com
Yes, it sent me fumbling for my Rolaids.

Date: 2005-10-26 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halation.livejournal.com
ugh
ick
blegh.

Date: 2005-10-26 07:34 pm (UTC)
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Date: 2005-10-26 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaneramos.livejournal.com
Yeah, I've been there, in a way. It's giving me an ulcer.
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Date: 2005-10-26 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaneramos.livejournal.com
I mean, just look at his teeth!

There was a big article on gay teens in Time Magazine recently. It discussed some of Exodus's new tactics at length. It scared me to see how they're evolving a kinder, gentler approach. Exodus seriously fucked up my life by being so nice.
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Date: 2005-10-26 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dakoopst.livejournal.com
And is it me, or is there something vaguely drag-queenish about the wife?

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Date: 2005-10-26 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quirkstreet.livejournal.com
"She's the woman that STOLE his heart?"

Er, doesn't that break one of the Commandments?

To say nothing of their overuse of the graven image of the pink triangle all over their site.

And the fact that half of their links don't work, including the ones that are supposed to contain the biographical sketches of the happy couple.

I can't take any of these programs seriously until they can go the full monty and find me an actual woman I want to settle down with. This "you can go straight in a vague, general way, like we claim this guy did" is too diffuse. They need to set up an honest-to-God dating service. Show me an ACTUAL hot Christian chick who wants to move in with me, dammit. Oh, and she needs to like bear bars, be a political liberal, enjoy science fiction movies and long walks in the country, have a career and mind of her own, and not wear nearly as much tacky jewelry as Miss Irene here.

I mean, I'm all for girls, but please, one does have some standards.

Date: 2005-10-26 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaneramos.livejournal.com
The pink triangle? But Pete, didn't you hear? The new ex-gay is fun! We can probably even find you a wife who likes sci-fi and country walks. But remember, no more adultery!

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Date: 2005-10-26 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ghostsandrobots.livejournal.com
I would be interested to hear a story of someone who thought he was gay and ended up falling in love with a woman that is completely devoid self-loathing and proselytizing. It's not that I don't think anything imaginable is possible in the human continuum, it's just that I think these people are full of shit.

Date: 2005-10-26 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaneramos.livejournal.com
Exactly. The problem is sexuality has become highly moralized and politicized.

Date: 2005-10-26 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stealthpup.livejournal.com
Thou Shalt Not Steal.

'Nuff said.

Date: 2005-10-26 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaneramos.livejournal.com
Yeah, double standard or what!

Whack-jobs on the air waves

Date: 2005-10-26 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhkrabat.livejournal.com
I notice they offer "The 10 Most Effective Ways To Reach the Homosexual", a
2 CD Set and Book for a mere $39.00. Hell, I can reach do that on LJ for almost free!

Wust what the country needed, more whack-job x-tians who think that your tax deductable(!) donate to their business ministry will allow them to find more guys as delusional as Bennett. I laughed at brunobt's assessment of his teeth! I'm straight but I thought a simular thing (which was "if this guy was gay, he's still gay"

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Date: 2005-10-26 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaneramos.livejournal.com
Yeah, this ex-gay looks like he hasn't had enough football therapy. But really, the Time Magazine article reported on an Exodus retreat where the guys all played football while the girls sat indoors in a discussion circle.

As for reaching the homosexual, Exodus is a great place to meet guys.

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Date: 2005-10-26 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfkat.livejournal.com
And he still looks queer as a pink mink, soo is he really straight?

Date: 2005-10-26 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaneramos.livejournal.com
Yeah, it looks to me like he hasn't played enough football at those Exodus retreats.

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Date: 2005-10-26 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaneramos.livejournal.com
Painful, isn't it?

Date: 2005-10-26 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daisydumont.livejournal.com
oh dear. i'm afraid to click on the link...

Date: 2005-10-26 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaneramos.livejournal.com
It's more sad and funny than scary, except when I think of how people in a more vulnerable situation might be misguided by it.

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Date: 2005-10-26 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] progbear.livejournal.com
I can’t help but think of the Good News! (http://www.batmanthehorse.com/mrshow/1_2.html#goodnews) skit from Mr. Show at this point.

“Then he'll tell us about his second terrible lapse into homo-sin-uality.”

Date: 2005-10-26 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaneramos.livejournal.com
I had never seen that. It's brilliant!

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Date: 2005-10-26 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missprune.livejournal.com
Hard to say anything but...sigh...

Date: 2005-10-26 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaneramos.livejournal.com
Yeah, I didn't have much to say about it, but it seems to strike a chord with a lot of people.

Date: 2005-10-26 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mathan.livejournal.com
Let's find out where he lives, get a PI on him and we'll probably still find him sucking cock.

Silly people. ;)

*HUGS*

Date: 2005-10-26 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaneramos.livejournal.com
That wouldn't suprise me at all. God will forgive him, of course. For sucking cock, I mean. ;-)

xoxo

Date: 2005-10-26 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilactime.livejournal.com
Oh dear. Some people will do anything to become celebrities, won't they?

Date: 2005-10-26 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaneramos.livejournal.com
That's an interesting point. They would ask what celebrity has to do with it; they're spreading God's love.

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Date: 2005-10-26 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] champdaddy.livejournal.com
it should be a cable tv sitcom...

"That Stephen, always on his knees at the bookstore to pray. Why, just yesterday he rang me to say he was spreading the gospel in the park restroom."

Date: 2005-10-26 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaneramos.livejournal.com
Or a reality program: "America's Next Heterosexual."

Date: 2005-10-26 10:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] furrbear.livejournal.com
Oye!!! Ouch!!!

A MCC minister I knew years ago had a very sage remark that's quite apropos to all these 'Ex-Gay' folk, "You can do or say what you want, but your body won't let you live a lie."

Maybe it's just me, but on top of how gay he still looks, his 'wife' bears an uncanny resemblence to Martina Navratilova. I wonder if she golfs or played basketball in college?

Date: 2005-10-26 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaneramos.livejournal.com
Unfortunately I've had some firsthand experience of the ex-gay movement. I don't know about the body, but the mind eventually breaks down under self-hatred.

preaching to the choir

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Date: 2005-10-26 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noveldevice.livejournal.com
"Proclaiming the truth about homosexuality"...

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Notice they're casting her as the dominant masculine one, though.

Date: 2005-10-26 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaneramos.livejournal.com
I did notice that. Someone told me gay men tend to marry dominant women. My own theory is gay men tend to marry lesbians, who may be even further in the dark about their own sexuality.

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Date: 2005-10-26 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e-musings.livejournal.com
Now I have heard of everything. That is so so so ridiculous!

Date: 2005-10-26 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaneramos.livejournal.com
Sadly, this reflects part of my own past experience in the ex-gay movement, though it's an unintentional charicature.

Date: 2005-10-27 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jimmy-tab.livejournal.com
cripes... well, trust fundamentalism to turn it's back on research and scientific proof leaning towards homosexuality being genetic...

methinks he was about a 4-5 on the scale to begin with.
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